Ethiopia: 20,000 flee Moyale clashes – Red Cross
Ethnic clashes in southern Ethiopia are reported to have left at least 18 people dead and 12 others injured.
Conflicts over land and water rights have caused clashes between local communities in the past
July 28, 2012 (BBC News) – More than 20,000 people have crossed into Kenya to escape the fighting, the Kenyan Red Cross says.
A spokesman told the BBC that people were continuing to cross the border although Ethiopian government forces had intervened to stop the fighting.
The clashes, in the Moyale area, are thought to have been sparked by a simmering dispute over land rights.
Fighting involving the Borana and Garri communities is said to have started mid-week, and to have continued until Friday.
Local reports speak of armed militias taking up positions in outlying villages on Wednesday, with the fighting spreading to Moyale town, on the Ethiopia-Kenya border, on Thursday.
Many of those who fled across the border into the Kenyan side of Moyale are having to sleep out in the open.
The Red Cross says it is providing those who have been displaced with food, water and tarpaulins.
All this problems is what wayyane (TPLF) did on our people the wayyane the who make this becouse they want to prolong their time
An media Oromoo yeroo hedduu baayyee itti gammadee, deebi’ee ammas itti gadda. Kana kan na jechisiise, Waan Oromoon keessa oolee- bule addunyaan nuuf geettanii nama gammachiisa. Odeessii kun hedduun isaanii dhugaa hundee jirtu irraa waan miliquuf deebi’e nama jibbisiisa. Fakkeenya yoo fudhanne,sababaan hundee lola Mooyyalee fi naannoo Mooyyaleetti deema jiruu laalchisee wanti akka sababaatti tuqame dogoggora.Lolli kun lola marraa fi bishaanii kan Garrii fi Booranii irratti waldhabuu irraa haga oli-guddatee turee jira. Dhugaan lola kanaa siyaasaa mootummaa wayyaanee ti. Mottummaan gosoota Oromoo waliiti diree, Oromoo fi Gosoota biraa walitti buusee ofii nagaa waara argatee jiraatu waan dalagaaa godhatee jiruuf,kana karaa dabballoota isaa yeroo feesisetti lola akkasii qabsiisa.
Lolli amma deema jiru lola kilili 4( Orormia region) fi Kilili 5(Oganden region) jedhamu jidduutti kan deemaa jirru dha.Gosootii kana keessaatti naannoo sana jiraachuu irraa qooda fudhataa jiru Booranaa fi Garrii waan tahaniif nama keessa isaa hin beeknetti lola marraa fi bishaanii iit fakkaachuu danda’a.Midiyaaleen keenna kana addaa baafate dhugaa sababaa hunde waan tahaa jiraatii Oromoo fi addunyaatti hubachiisuu qaba, kanuma waliin Ormoonis waliif dirmatuun dirqama lammummaa ti.
waltii dirmaatee maal gochuuf? garri lafaa iraa dhabasisu barbaada? thats will not happene, over our dead body,instead go see the enemy using your opdo, to control the area,you do not the cause of this problem, since your are outsider, walii birmachuu yoo barbaade deemi woyane ajeeesi, diinaa oromo, gaarin oromodhaa opdoti offiraa faagesee,get ready and wish you good luck, garris are ready to defend their rights, will not accept woyane /opdo genocide.
kunis yaadaa kiyya
Siif Gharrille walit qabne saluuf!!
to: Furmata saba
if you are not fully aware of something, instead of talking rubbish you better keep your thoughts to yourself.firstly, you said ” garriin oromoo dha”. Garriin oromoo miti, yoomillee orommo hin taatu. Garriin baqattoota waggaa 50n dabran somaliyaa irraa baqattee kibba itoophiyaa naannoo Boorana qubatte. Booranii bara sun isaan baqattoota waan ta’aniif gargaare jennaan isiin turte humna jabeeffattee amma lafa Booranaa falmaa jirti. Akka fedhii isiitti lafa booranaa hunda kutanii soomaliyaatti galchani. That is a dream and will never happen, there is no time that somali refugee who came to Ethiopia in the past 5 decades will rule Boranaland of Ethiopia. They are not even Ethiopians, they came to Ethiopia from somalia as a refugee in the beginning and now after getting military assistance from Alshaba,claim many territories of Boranaland. Kanaaf waan homaa keessaa hin beekne Garriin oromoo jettee hin odeessini yoo seenaa biyyaa homaa keessaa hin beekne. Secondly, you said “garris are ready to defend themselves from opdo genocide”. If you wish them to defend themselves, they could defend themselves by going back to their fathers land,Luuq Somalia, they claim our fathers land, the Boranaland, by coming as a refugee from somalia. We will continue defending our father’s land from invaders at any cost,OK.Borana,the land of Abba Gadaa, the land gadaammojjii, the land of Qaalluu the land of Diido Gaawwolee,the land of heros, the land of Oromo cultural heritage. Haga ilmi Boorana tokko lubbuun jiru Garriin biyya teenna itti hin buutu. Guutuun abba liibee qophii jira. There is no time Alshabab terrorist will occupy Boranaland. Long live Borana, Long live Oromo,Long live Ethiopia… Down to Garri Alshabab terrorist.
you Moron I am 65 years old and born and rised in Arero , now you telling me garriis are new comers that inhabited
Ethiopia for last 50 years?,when I can count 25 generations back thats all born in Dire,you borans come from borame whats today called somaliland.would you kindly trace your ancestories back to that?for all of you oromos brothers and sisters who do not know histry please reafirm from giving any bais comments, thats the reason oromia today under accupation of woyanes, becuasse you denied the existing reality on the ground.by the way calling us Alshabab the dirty word of east africa is trying to lebel us peace loving garris us a terorist.if you think that US state department will side with you to fight Garris, your dirty tricks will not work.so think twice we are born and raised in our land and no body will take that away from us.
Peace for Garris Borana and Gabra is the way to go, death to woyanes and viva OLF which I Am a proud Memeber.
kuns yadaa kiya, ati akam jeta?
FUCK YOU FUCKING OROMOOS
i hate oromo galla
Haadhi tetee raayi womaa in beektu ufti hin alphyinii garriin baqatoota jete, garriin itoophiyaamiti nama soomaaliyaa jete , garriin alshabaab jette, atin kijibaa haga garriifi boorani ganna 600 caalu waliin ollaa hin beektu? Atin akas hin beektaa himmoo dhugaa dubbacvhuu sodaataa, yoo atin akas hin beekne, wamaamiti dubbii hamtuu sun naa sii araarame ana garriin yoo ammoo atin beeka akas jettee gadaa teteetiif, raaba gadaa issiille raayi , qaalluu tetee raayi kuffaar wamaa hin beekne luuqi otoo jettuu haatee muuxxeen hin luqayin
Furmata Saba, atin furmaata saba moo atu dhukuba sabaa?mataa kee keessa wanti jira, furro duwaa akka ta,e ofibsa jirta furro tee lafa Booranaati hinbaafatu.OK?
Furmaata saba,Furro gharri dhude jirta? mata gaala gharri ka haalate du,e nyaate?or ergatu gharriti?
Dhiiro gharriin ollaa keena, nurra jabaati , dheengada mooyaale keesa nuhaate, ilmi boorana yaa bade, raaba gadaan baddee, waraanaan hin dandeenu, dhiifnu
Halake Sora , jaba Booraba ofin jete akana dubata?Jabaan boorana akkan hin dubatu.Gantu fi Galtuuti akkana dubata.
Aab Dido, that mathafacking goon who label himself by the beautiful Borana name “Halake Sora” is not actually borana. He is Garri but tries to do trick on us by labeling himself with borana name.don’t mind what this Garri qoottii beelaa are talking. hope you get what i mean. kaayoo qabna!
Moyale boorana,
where is it located the moyale Borana? You are realy an idiot with cockroaches brain.!!!
Gurba Garrii
you idiot matha fucka,beating drum for nothing,falsity and hyper-exaggeration is what you learnt from your mathafucking anscestors. i dont have time to argue with dickhead like you but to clarify some of the rubbish you talk above:firstly, if you want to know the fact, if you want to know where and when your qoottii anscestors came from ask your grand father. secondly,eventhough you clearly know that we Borana are muslims, you call us “kuffar”,if you are a true muslim you shouldn’t have called other muslims a “kuffar” you munafiq! But this doesn’t hurt us and we don’t care because Allah is the one who is going to judge you for that. Thirdly, you said garrii and borana lived side by side for 600 years. you dont know anything about History because you have been herding your camels for all your life, and got camel brain. go back to school and start from grade 1 if you wanna know about borana heroes history and their territory and whom they lived side by side with for 600 yrs you said, you idiot. fourthly, you said “dugaa dubbachuu sodaatta malee akka garriin nama itoophiyaa inbeetta”. falsity is your common characteristic, that you’ve inherited from your anscestors. you dont know how to speak, all you talk is rubbish and falsehood but you call yourself Islam. Even your elders are lier,shame on you!Borana never speak false things, he is known for his truthfulness, if you want to know this ask you grand father who came from Luq in the beginning,you idiot asshole. i hope i have taught you something, dhoqqee! The time we will clear you from the face of Ethiopian land is very near you terrorist motherfackas. gaafii isan lafa booranaa argatan yoomillee hin dhufu,ufumaa oobjattani. akkuma kalee sun daara isan baafne isan garsiifna yoo isan nutti buutani. warrii keesan haguma Ethiopia seene boorana irraa takka hin teenne garuu ka akka saree yo cufa fixanilleen isanuma. akaakuu, abaaboo tee gaafadhi waan guutuun abba liibee isan tolchaa ture. Akka waan humna qabdani huddu dhaabdanii boorana jala buutani akka har’a kana boorani udaan isan keesa oofa. deemii milishaa teesan nama 56 ka boorani haadha isii raaye sunii booyi asirratti kijiba kee hin oofini, ekera. haga ilmi boorana tokko lubbuun jiru lafa boorana irra nagaan hin teettani, ta durii cufti dhara,ufuma oobjattani qootti haadha rooftu. Mootumman dhiyootti luuqitti isan godaansisa amma yaa quuftani qoottummaa keessa baatani. mee kijiba kee gad oofi lam! qoottii.
You sence less , munaafiq , liar, if you and your people are muslims
as you claimed, why do you always wage un provocked war on apeaceful muslim like the current one? Why did your peole choose to attack when there is no even one single dispute b/n garri and Borana? Have you forgotten that in any clashes b/n these two tribes that Garre never provocked war or initiated it? You guys you are suffering from mental illness (ethnocetrism) which is a false belief, and also you must know one things anythings else on this earth are subject to change or modification except Allah , but for Borana it seems that the whole world and its affaires are in perpetual stagnation, and this suggest why you and your people are in primitive way of thinking and living
lastly i shall leave you one further question what have you saved for the future that you are constantly threatenning your neighbours with war , and what do you think of the people with much modern education, stronger economy and the like than Borana? I advice you dont fool your self Garre doesent want war with any one, but if you insist on it we are determined to teach you further lesson ! !
warri kena duri luqii dhufule ama nu namuma xophiyati, wal hadhu in malle.Gurba garri, aboko kiya, lak ufurra war kana, la cinne wari kun ammale eger nut dacha’e akka kalee sun teesuma nu dhoore, maatii teena lafa basa. lak aboko kiya kuffaari kun nun ambisu yo ama nuti deebie. aga diqa kana ka mangistin kun nurra dhoore la afuura baafane. wani ama la gara kutate nunhambisu.
isaq aiyow axmed
yo qara akas beetan boran ma tuxxani, nu soomaali jetani maqa kena in ballesina.
Yes you can be proud of your culture , but culture of killing innocent human beings for social acceptance ,& looting livestock is not something to be proud of
and it is infact the source of your problems
If u have a commitment and guns would be better for both of u go North
Maqalle…Where’s the mother of all problems.
Shame on u.
Garri people do not want the Boronna people to lay their feet on garri people’s land because they belive most Boronna people are infected from feet worm which is known in Ethiopia as the Moyale worm. Legend and historians say the feet worm got the name Moyale in Ethiopia because long time ago a foreigner person crossed the Kenya boarder into Ethiopia and dumped a suit case full of Feet (Moyale) worm inside the Moyale town. Since then the worm has been named Moyale to remember the town it has been dumped in. Currently the Moyale (feet) worm disease is present all over Ethiopia making it one of the most CONTAGIOUS medical challenges Ethiopians are facing.
Helo moyale borena and related fugitives!
I know u a PAGANS who fully got immersed in local farso, the smell of your mouth is disturbing us here. U escaped barefoot from moyale, i am telling u the truth, as am not a pagan like u. The muslims are destined to teach u more tough lessons if what happened to u in moyale was not enough. In simple terms, u lost the control of moyale, your police station captured, govt offices burnt, your properties became booty to muslims, your relief supplies store dismantled, your master planners who initiated unseccesful war escaped to kenya registered as refugees, saying waaq nubaas. All the Kaafirs, OPDO terrorists, jaldes dhokata ever bound to depart. Gudini boorana gudina gur haree, u c how 30 unprepared Garre boys cleared your 1000 borena and adma batana police within seconds. We know Borena tactics very well, people who believe in quantity not quality! For sure if u didnt surrender, Somali flag shall be playing in Yabelo, whether u believe or not. U donkey u a born as ilmakosi, people who keep on having child after fathers death, by garayus. Your women boast by number of garayus she has to others! Dirty! What a shame. Ilma kana aboo habalu nara dhalche is your moto! Motherfuka!
Hudet boy
I can’t comment on you coz you sound ignorant creature, coz all you talk doesn’t make any sense and it displays your ignorance.to say, we dont have time to talk with ignorant goon like you. therefore, you better stop talking shit and go back to your camels camp with yo ignorance!
Garrii man, who call himself “furmata saba”
Listen and listen carefully, firstly you call yourself by this beautiful oromo name “furmata saba” and you wish to have one because you morons don’t have any good sounding name except such scary names as “aliyoow”, “gaaboow” and shit like that. Secondly, you said you were born and raised in Arero, that is your falsehood, which is typical of your Garrii qoottii tribe. If you were born in Arero or raised in Arero, you shouln’t have been such mathafucking bloody goon. Thirdly, you said Garri were born here in Dire Borana 25 generations back and they didnt come 50 yrs ago, you idiot listen and listen good,Whether garri were born in Dire Borana or not history will tell, no argument here. your rubbish talk doesn’t help you. And i dont care when you garri entered ethiopia in the beginning when you came from Luq, you can consult history if you wanna know when your anscestors ran to ethiopia for shelter, but the fact is they started inhabiting Moyale and other Boranaland in the 50′s whether you believe or not you asshole motherfucka. And you said you are member of OLF you liar! you wish but you never coz OLF our oromo brothers. Otherwise, instead of vomiting your stupid thoughts here and showing us how ignorant you are, you better go continue walking after your camels! Borana are born heroes who are known in the world history. Boranas are educated people not ignorant people like you,go and read world scientists rev., we have thousands of scientists in the US and Europe. We have hundreds of professors and Doctors teaching in the US universities. You people are ignorant forever, you dont go to school, you either walk behind your camels or go and wage war on peace loving Borana people. eventhough you start war all the time you are the ones who are always killed like busaa’a in dozens. Borana are heroes! dont try them, otherwise you’ll see wht will happen to you like last week in Moyale where hundreds of your militia’s corpse were all around place in Moyale. You ignorant,your problem is you dont learn a lesson because the ignorance is in your gene.
You stupid son the fucking abbaa gada the canibalist pagan chief since when did borana became heroes.? And if your claim true that you have so many borana profesors, and other scientiest then what made the Borana among the most primitive tribes of todays world and what is preventing Borana from livig adecent life? You “jira ajaaw” who was fed on “farso” son “kossi” the generation of prodigals, old day of dargue wont come back , our neighbours knows best as to who is supperior Garri or Boran, in good thinking, in education, in economy, in combat cabablities, in peace loving , which Garri excells well, you idiot there are so many important things about Garre which even a highly educated Borana wont know 100 years to come , look arround you, your stupidity has puted you inflame and if you dont behave well and respect your neighbour the name Boran it self will soon cease to exist , and this is aproven reality.. So be warned
you senceless louse why are you accusing all ethiopians livig from makkele to moyale you idiot check your capacity , you are the worst living creature on the soil of east africa
To: all who support the clash between Garri Community and Borana Community
Donot be foolish. The current clash has been incited by the TPLF/Woyane Tigrai Government. It is for the benefit of neither Borana nor Garri but for the benefit of Woyane itself.
Woyanes want to collide Oromos with Somalis to discourage the strategic alliance between OLF and ONLF.
There is no doubt that the mercenery and much hated Woyane government is after the present clash between Garri and Borana communities. An edivence is that many international media reported saying “Ethiopian government’s decision to settle the Garri community on land which the Borana claim to own.”.
The barbaric Woyane regime has done all kinds of sin and crimes against the people of East Africa. Since the regim is decaying and disappointed it doesnot refrain from doing similar crimes. They are like a wounded wolf.
To moyale borena
i c u are true ignorant, rubish & shit are the only two english words u learnt so far, coz u a fed on shit from your weaning stage. U should nt forget kosi, u rascal! U dont want to face the truth, and advertise the dogs, who a now trying to spread their deforestation through charcoal burning (borenas main source of income) into garre region. To convience u provide here your adress so that i can attach 4 u photos of your piled dead bodies, now feared of disease outbreak! Idiot born of garrayu! U shall be extinct sooner than later. Machaa’a aba farso.
Gurba garrii
Ka haadha raawu, dhagayi gu’uri gurraa fudhadhii,mathafaching bloody moron, we want every qoottii and Alshabab terrorist off Boranaland and Ethiopian soil for good. Just prepare a possible place of refuge in a very near days. Borana and our Ethiopian government have learnt a lesson that welcoming ungrateful people such as yours is a mistake and your end will be horrific! No Borana or true Ethiopian accept such an anti-Borana, by extension anti-Ethiopia agenda. Every normal Ethiopian know that you Garrii terrorist have short and long term essentially anti-Ethiopian agenda.
Short term agenda: you want to secure all territories that are said to form part of the “greater somalia” land mass and put them under kilili 5, in preparation for its eventual separation from Ethiopia when your ogaden terrorist group succeed.
Long term agenda: As every Ethiopians know you Garri were always anti-Ethiopian, your long term agenda is to separate from Ethiopia and join with the Somali Republic after grabbing many territories of Boranaland which wouldn’t be successful for you of course.
You qoottii people have abused the hospitality of our country and Borana people by laying claim on Boranaland and in effect pushing anti-Ethiopian agenda,bringing Alshabab terrorist group into Ethiopia. Garri qoottii will never live in peace on Boranaland and sooner or later, Ethiopians will be on the side of the true children of Ethiopia(Borana people) and never accept Garri alshabab terrorists claiming Boranaland to be added to their phantom “greater somalia” plan.
And you clearly know that we are born war heroes and nobody ever defeat us. we are ready to kick in your fucking ass and send you to your fathers land called Luq or Luuq,whatever you call it.
U Fuckin pagan, dont abuse Ogadens, from where on earth is this beast that barks like a rebid Dog? May be our Garre brothers has taught him a tuagh lesson
What a foolish of u ! You who call your self moyale borana , you are offeding the whole lot of ethiopian somali people, or saying kilili 5. We dogodis cant tollarate such insult , the Garre are our brothers regardles of the minor differece we are still brothers and shall remain the same for ever, you boranas are our common enemy have you forgotten what you did to our people at ” SIGA BORDI” village and the so many other cruelities, we are also ready to avange.
Dogodia man
You bulgu, listen! your stupid words does not affect Borana Heroes in any way,OK. Yes, we did all those atrocities you said to you people, Remember that massacre of your people in Kenya in the late 90′s? So what do you want to do now? Let me tell you, go join your brothers Garri+Gabra+any other smallshit related to you. Borana are born heroes and have enough military capacity in both Kenya and Ethiopia,we don’t need help from anyone, not even from our own oromo brothers! You said you are gonna take revenge, don’t lie, what is holding you back? why dont you avenge then? You are coward, you know us and you can’t do anything, you liar. Haven’t you seen what we did to your Garri brothers in MoyaleBorana last week? Go join them and also Gabra, we will destroy all of you Alshabab terrorist allies from the face of Boranaland and Ethiopia.
Yuo vagabond listen , you have no strength your militery cabability is nothing but ash,!. We have been closely following what happened to you last week in moyale and its serrounding. Today you leave in refugee comps the brave brothers of ours are still peacefully conducting their rotine daily activities in moyale ,
down, borana , down Borana, congratulation to Garri and Gabra
Mr. Obsa, what you said is quite far from the truth, which land of borana are you talking about? Can you please mention one such particular place? I see you dont have information as to what caused this conflict, no body was settled on the land of Borana, and Garri ana Borana had been fighting each other for along time say 5 centurie , then why should you blame TPLF, for aproblem which had existed prior to its birth.?
To moyale borena
u have to know ALLAH has given u the body of human and the brain of chickens! Our dispute is over coz u have surrendered, mentally depressed. Ethiopia will never ever take side with u to fight somali. Yesterday u a opposing ethiopia, now having realized helpless, u became humble citizen. Stupid, you have no GOD, your GOD is Garre, keep on fearing and saluting us forever. Just to remind u, we are fulfilling the command of ALLAH in the Quran “O u who believe, fight with non-believers those close to you once they misbehave, and let them find in u strength….” surah Aliimran, go to mosque, convert to islam and then c in the Quran. U blind idiot!
hell, from where on earth this moron called Hudet boy came? are you really Muslim, wariya? Please don’t use respected Quran of Allah to insult other people. And DON’T call other Muslims non-believers because it is sin and remember you are fasting it is Ramadan, even if we garre hate this boran they are muslims.
To. Abdi Osman. Which muslim do you mean? All Boranas are not muslims, secondly if you know about the teaching of islam, you would have not said that, you must know that any one who sympathises with “kaafirs ” over muslims is himself akaafir, thirdly “islani atin baantu warra kitaa quraankii udaaniin uffirraa aaqu” atu warrum sun fakaata istaaqfurllah jedhi yoo islaam taate” lastly tell your people that any one who wages war against the servants of allah, allah “sw” himself shall be at war with them, and it indeed happened last week .
Dear Miss/Mr Birjex:
Rather, what you said is far from truth.It is not me but International Media which reported that there is the hand of Ethiopian government after the present clash between Garri and Boarana people.Only negotiation among the two community leaders and demise of TPLF is lasting solution!
Let anybody count the lienage of Garri to Somali? which somali clan they belong to ? If they are somalis how almost all of them know Afaan oromoo? Garri Boy can you gave us some hint?
Galaangalee saaba , ofcourse i can provide you the whole lots of our geneology. Through all segment to directly somali our common ancestor. Secondly as for the language dont think that garri are only those living in ethiopia they live in somalia, kenya, chad and some part of north an central africa, and all of them doesnt speak your language , the language spoken by our setion is not pure oromifa itself, and this is the product of what we call interaction through diffusion procces and still we are distinct from your people in all aspect of our culture.
Galaangalee Sabaa
Look, Garri or Garre, whatever they are called are neither Oromo nor Somali. They claim to be somali but Somalis dislike them because they are not peace loving people. For generations, the Garri spoke a Borana-Oromo language because the good old Borana people took the Garri under their wing for their own protection against attacks from other somali clans. The Borana-Oromo never accepted them because they are not well behaved people. They are people that have serious and confused identity issues. Their main intent is taking Borana territory and join the somali nation( for now join the kilili 5 and eventually the somali republic when ogaden succeeeds to become part of somali republic). No Oromo and true Ethiopian accept such an anti-Oromo, by extension anti-Ethiopian agenda of this terrorist people who don’t even know their identity.
To: Both Garri and Borana Supporters
Whether Garri’s are somalis, Oromos or neither doesnot matter. Both Somalis and Oromos are cushitic people and so there is still ancesetral bondage between them. What matters is how to contain the enemity between the two people and to the contrary form an alliance against a common enemy, namely the Abysinians.
I do not want to mingle with those using foul language here and I am neither Garreh nor Borana, but maybe sometimes the view of a neutral observer is appreciated, which lets me speak.
I therefore wonder very much what is going on here, because the Borana as well as the Garreh both are a Cushitic people – and are both distinct nations in the best sense of the definition (own language, own territory, own genetic heritage etc.). Both are belonging to the Eastern Cushites group of peoples. Both speak mostly the Galla (Oromo)language and can talk to each other, though the Garre have their own language (Garreh)and only recently also learned to speak Somali, while the Borana speak “Oromo, Borana-Arsi-Guji”, sometimes known as Gallinya language. Both of you peoples were pushed north-west and west-ward by the Somalis. And instead of sticking together you allow to be divided and at the end conquered.
I believe that many of the commentators, who see the hidden hand of Woyane in this are right, but still fall short to see the real forces behind all this. Surely it reminds of the genocide the Anuak suffered on 13. December 2004, but it also has similarities of the Hutu/Tutsi conflict and is a mirror of how the Somali clans are pitched against each other and the rest of the World.
See the real dark forces behind all this and expose the overseas interests in the natural resources (land, oil, geo-strategic) as well as their local stooges.
Unite in the struggle to fight against this hidden neo-colonialism which comes with genocide by double-proxy.
Che
Che
You idiot Garri, listen!
You try hard to sound like someone who is aware of Ethiopian current affairs and like someone who knw a bit of history, but you are nothing better than stupid chauvinist racist.Firstly, you cannot call Oromo people by the name “Galla” which your anscestors used to call Oromos back in the days. Galla is your name not ours, you moron. secondly, you said “… though the garre have their own language (Garreh)…”. Are you mad or some ignorant shit?! There is no language called “Garreh” exist on this planet.Garris speak Afaan Oromo, go ask them,otherwise if you are some ignorant goon, do not vomit your ignorance here!
Thirdly, you blame wayyane for the conflict between garri and Borana. Wayyane has nothing to do with this conflict, wayyane are Ethiopians, we prefer to deal with wayyane rather than this stupid garrii qoottii terrorist who are driving anti-Ethiopian agenda to steal Ethiopian land and incorporate it into somalia.You idiot, if you are a true Ethiopian you shouldn’t have said garris are cushite and therefore should be allowed to lay a claim on Ethiopian land. What the hell do non-Ethiopian Cushites have to do with our own matters of Ethiopians? Now answer me you moron!
Moyale borana or ijoolle boorana
i see yesterday you are OLF and calling the rulling party,wayane and now you are pretending to be agood citizen its good if you serrender, to the law of EFDR. Then you might be forgiven for your past crime, but if you are only pretending no problem we can get you .
To: Che
the one who call himself Che,how the fuck do you know garres learn somali language recently? We are soomaali clan and we speak soomaali language all our life you ooyida awas! get the hell out of here, you motherfucker.
As I said earlier, I will neither mingle nor discuss with those of you who only can express themselves with blurbs from the gutter, which is where they most likely live as exiles either in Nairobbery or in the NY underground, awaiting their pay-cheque as agent provocateur from their US-American overlords.
The poor fellow, who calls himself “Garre man” must be either very young and knows nothing or he is not a Garre at all. Tell us if you are Garre libin or Garre quranyo and more importantly – tell us if you then believe to belong as “Somali Clan” to Hawiye, Dir, Darod or Digil-Mirifle. That some of the Garre adapted and subdued themselves under the Somali clans is obvious and also has been documented in the past – by the Somalis sometimes allowing Garre living inside Somalia “to be part of xyz” – just different allegiances over time, but that is no evidence for your origin, heritage and lineage. As your own elders. That your Borana “friends” do not even concede that you have as a people an own history, identity and language and you fall for it yourself is unfortunately symptomatic.
And “Galla”, being an Oromo language term in the first place, was not the name for the language of the Borana given by my ancestors, but by everybody who tried to understand the language of the “wanderers”. I like to call the language Borana (which I wrote), but you guys have so far failed to change the international terminology of the linguists. I guess because nobody wants to listen to the fecal and foul language of people like this Moyale Borana.
This is in line with your failure to admit that you are just geared up on the ground as well as in these unfortunately unguided fora here by your overlords, who have made Abyssinia their playing ground since the days of Ptolomaeus, when Woyane begged for funds from the European kings and the Israelites and since the days when the red-coats brainwashed the 56 nations of what is today called Kenya.
Today you are paid by those behind the curtains through those stooges in the Kenyan government as well as those in Addis to be suicidal stooges yourself and bury your own people.
Shame on you.
Che , i am a historian my self especialy i know much about the historical origine, the relationship, and the like of The Garre,the Gabra, the borana and other people who related to them
since it is defficult to explain all here i shall tell you where the Garre stand in somali geniology
to start with the somalis are not only those you mentioned ,
garre son of Gardheere son of samalle /somali
.the group which you mentioned
Hawiye son irir son of samae
Dirr son irir son of samale
samaalle group are
gardheere
irir
maqarre
mayle
yabuur etc these are brothers
do you understand it friend
feel free and aske me any question
Again i see you dont have much information about Garre garre never and will never adapt to any one tribe they will always remain Garre/somal, they are son of Gardheere brother of irir cousine of Dirr and Hawiye as i told you earlier, and we have respect among the rest of our somali brothers
At the beginning … and at the end, we were and will be ALL ONE – so much is clear.
But in between it depends on migrations and allegiances, used opportunities and failures as well as the strength of a culture and the will or need to adapt.
Apart for the more neutral DNA analysis, there is little hard evidence and many times history is confused by made-up stories and legends, which are often finally proven to be false.
How about Gurba garrii and Gurba man participating in GENO 2.0 (see https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html) for your own clarification.
Language gives a hint, but often is also misleading, like in the cases of the Ogiek (claimed by the nilotic, political group called Kalenjin, but in reality the Ogiek are autochtone and under threat of forced assimilation by mainly the Nandi (Kalenjin) as well as the (non-Kalenjin) Maasai.
In a similar fashion the Borana tried to suck up the aboriginal Watha in Kenya, or some Somali clans try still to conquer the existence of the aboriginal Madhibaan.
Self-determination is an important point in the prevalence and perseverance of a people as such, but not so when massive brain- and history-washing has blurred the views – as we have seen with tons of different Somali genealogies having been produced by different Somali political strata over the last 50 years.
Expression of this is too that the Borana state that the Garre are mostly (as in majority of Garre people alive today) Oromo-speakers, but there are Garre groups inside Somalia which have more or less already integrated and only speak Somali. Most have forgotten about their original Garreh language (of which the Borana even know nothing) and in the daily struggles and migrations failed to keep their original identity. That makes the Garre vulnerable at the hands of the Borana and other aggressors, which is why they seek now the allegiance of militarily stronger Somali groups and they become themselves aggressors, which in turn makes them vulnerable to the accusations we see above.
But fact is that both Borana as well as Garre are just puppets on the strings of the overlord players and their stick-holders.
As I said earlier – what all fail to see is the larger picture in which you are just game-balls. Unless you do realize this, you are all prone to be obliterated.
However, you still stand a chance to abolish all this and come together.
Unless you do, the world will just witness your annihilation at the hands of the Habash and Kikuyu, being used by those who want the real wealth of your lands, which is for them not you as a people.
Watch out.
Do you mean that Garre had been Oromo Before they assimiliate to somali?
No, Garre as well as Oromo have both a Cushitic origin – as the Somalis do, but Garre had imho developed as a distinct people before some assimilated to Somali.
The point I am trying to make is that Garre are closer related to Borana than to Somali, but are distinct from Borana as well as Somali. A similar case is that of the Ajuran, who are closer to Somali than Garre and had a likewise turbulent history.
Soon you will see that same what has happened now between the Garre and the Borana to happen between the peoples living along the Southern Omo river. Woyane will play them against each other (divide and rule), have them thereby wiped them from the face of the earth and prepare the land for their foreign investors only to suck by themselves and eat the breadcrumbs falling fron the US-American and European taker-societies tables.
Unite in Diversity against the real enemies and their local stooges and don’t let them play you against your brothers and sisters.
che
You che, what do you want? you are neither garri nor boran, so who call you to come and comment on here? i can see you are terrorist GINBOT 7, go away from here you are not accepted in Ethiopia! Do you think you know a lot about soomaali for googling and writing those somali clans? go away ashabari GINBOT 7…war bah kelbi. ooyida awas wariya!
Tell that to Borana who think ,that the americans, the Germans and even the whole human race ARE BORANAs, and hence wish that they should be ruled by RABA GADA,
we Garri people we are not driven by ousiders but by our own ……….
And it is Borana who always want war,
unless Borana change their mined
and respect us as aneighbor
we are determined to defend our dignity and fight them as long as the enemity contenues
Che
I don’t think you, unlike many other proud Ethiopians, ever understand the real cause and ramifications of the conflict between Borana on one side and Garri/Gabra/somali on the other. Please try not to diminish the reason for which the Borana are fighting, nor pass a comment with a slightly patronising tone like “both garri and borana are Cushite people therefore why fighting…” instead of making peace.
Consider some of the following points:
1) The Garri have never been patriotic Ethiopian and they clearly have an anti-Ethiopian agenda of taking the Borana-Oromo land they have been settled on by the “neftenya” authorities in the past when they fled somalia region of Luq and entered Ethiopia.
2) You blame the Wayyane for the conflict between Garri and Borana, but you failed to consider some facts: Garri and Borana had always been at war, even during the rule of “Neftenya” including Mengistu Haile Mariyam and his predecessors. So, how can you blame the current Ethiopian government.
3) Under the era of Haile Silassie and the dictator Mengistu Haile Mariyam, the Borana backed the Ethiopian army and fought all the expansionist wars of Somalia while the Garri, like their somali cousins in ogaden, fought against Ethiopia.
4) I can feel your pain in your writing that the “wayyane” , as you kept mentioning several times, might have caused you harm. But the fact is that they also went through the same shit from your anscestors, including Mengistu Haile Mariam,in the past and that is why they are doing the same thing to you people. I can see in your writing that you have the idea of “Free Ethiopia from Wayyane to save Ethiopia”, but do you think there will ever be Ethiopia if Borana-Oromo land is not protected from the incessant somali clans’ aim of grabbing it and incorporating it to Somalia in the long-run?
5) You can not call Oromo people as a “wanderers”. We are not wanderers, and will never be.We have a beautiful country which is more than a half of Ethiopian land including the capital city Finfinne. We have more than 80,000squareKM land inhabited by 5 million Oromo people of Borana outside Ethiopia in Northern Kenya. So, why are you calling us ‘wanderers’ while we are peacefully and permanently settled in Ethiopia and other parts of East Africa? I can feel your hatred for Oromo in your writings, but you can not do anything because those days of neftenya was long gone and will neva come again!
6) You said “…you guys have so far failed to change the international terminology of the linguists.” Listen! Even though “Neftenya’s” used to call Oromo people by this derogatory term back in that “Neftenya era” and introduced “Afaan Oromo” wrongly as “Gallinya” to foreign researchers, we were able to change the terminology to the original version of our language “Afaan Oromo” and these days you can’t find that derogatory term usage in any document or research paper, except from some racist individuals like you!
Therefore, I urge you to refrain yourself from being racist to Oromo people and writing some vague information which you either not fully aware of or intentionally wanting to spread hate speech against us. And for your call on us to wake up against Wayyane, it is non of our business, if you want to fight them,go ahead, but don’t call on us. The current Ethiopian government is much better than those “Neftenya’s” rule of the past.
Borana guy
Moyale, Southern Ethiopia
5 million borana living outside! Where do these vermine live? the total population of Isiolo: 144,000 this include the Somali, meru, Turkana, Garre, Sakuye Marsabit: 245,000 this include: borana. Rendille, Gabra(majority) Garre, burji. Now where else do Ajae live? oh by the way Mandera population alone is 1.5 million people. There you go puking all over the place. Galla, USHA.
Well said Borana guy. Let me keep mine for now!
You brainless Borana moyale , the man is your friend member of your OLF dont try to decieve, the Ethiopian people ,secondly according to you the aim of OLF, js fight somali people , so go ahead and try your best ……….
You crazy OLF’s and ajayees, you better go to sympathise for your countless deceased terrorists and advance international community to rescue your 15000 refugees in kenya instead of composing rubbish here. Gubate in argini tanaaf ibidaan tabat, Garriin kale dhalate ka jira ajaaw wa tolch!
To:Garri Qoottii man, who call himself Somali.
Qootticha haadha raawu listen good!
First of all shame on you for calling yourself a somali,do you know that somali dislikes you people because you are ignorant and primitive people who never change? A true Somali guy like Abdi Osman who commented above can be my witness! Look Borana are more advanced people who have well documented history and rich culture which is known throughout the world. Qoottii haadharaawu, understand? As my brother told you above, Borana are much educated African people who are well known in the world for their very advanced educational positions, especially in the US universities. You can go read World’s Top Scientists Rv. released by the US in 2011. How many Borana scientists can you find in there? you moron!In addn we have hundreds of professors and Doctors in the States, Europe and Africa as my brother Moyale Borana told you above. You people are one of the most primitive people of Africa next to pygmy of Southern Africa. That is why Somali people call you “Pygmy of Horn of Africa” understand you bloody idiot? Borana don’t have time to deal with ignorant people like yours.Qoottii mataa muxxee.
You know us very much,we are born war heroes of horn of Africa, you have seen what Borana heroes did to you in MoyaleBorana last week. Haven’t you learnt a lesson yet? Your problem which displays your ignorance is you don’t learn a lesson from a hell of anything! When Gutu Abba Libe completely destroys you, you don’t learn a lesson from it. Haven’t seen how Garris are completely eradicated from MoyaleBorana in a sigle day by Borana Commandos. Haate raayi womaa siin galani, deemi badi asi! Go mourn for your 56 militia’s captured and killed by our commandos and those killed in the war. What the hell are you doing from here while 20,000 Garris are in a refugee camp in Kenya? Do you know that even in Kenya the head of Kenyan Red Cross,Northern Kenya Branch is a Borana man, feeling mercy for you people and helping you in a refugee camp!If you don’t behave we are going to stop that assistance! If you surrendered on time, you would have been saved from all this shame you mathafukcin cowards! Deemi amma asi badi qoottii haadha rooftu! Gana Luuqitti si galchina. Muxxee areera teeti. waan aliyoow deema kana. Just keep dreaming but no time will come when you defeat Borana Heroes and incorporate boranaland into somalia which is your aim. The time we will destroy you from the face of Ethiopia is very near!
To. Ijole borana coakroach,
really no need to waste my valuable time wid a crazy beast like you. Its known borenas are warthogs, u never learn lesson, step over your piled bodies to be destroyed. I dont know from which planet u are , telling us borena hv professors, while u a the most ignorant godforsaken creature on earth. Although u are not admitting, u know u are people who still live in caves, mud houses, earn a living from charcoal burning, looting and robbery. The most suffering, bad smelling ape in eastern africa, damaging the view of this region. Garre outdo all u mentioned leading prosperous decent life, earn a living harmlessly through halaal ways. You motherfucker pagan, waqefata tell me apart from tambo and farso anything else your can afford. As for the occasion of last week, u cant still count the damage u sustained? Havnt we captured/controlled all your major institutions? Police station, water supply system, relief store, all your offices? Are u still denying? Remember all fall under our control after your commandoes:-D swept away. Thats not new but how we used to handle u for over 8 centuries. Just dare once again you ll see the consequence. Madafaka, ilmaan kosi ajaawa! Siilka hooyada miyaad gali doontaa? Somaalidu way qiratey waadna baabi’i Inshallah. Uskag, dirty dhoqe dhoqeen dhalte!
To. Ijoole borana
you are ijoolle after all as your name implies ,hence you dont know any things about war,and peace, we have talked alot on this site and so many hatred, and other worst things were exchanged, to focus on something un productive is onther useless.
The reality on the ground is that we are two neighbors wether we hate each other or not, we are still dependent on each other in so many ways,
and killing an innocent human being does not guarentee that one is ahero or brave. According to me the hero or brave is the one who make peace, and respect
the rule of law and his neighbors.
I firmly suggest that what our people need is peace and development not war, poverty,displacement, etc
therefore if you agree with me, let us stop all this , and for any one who doesnt want peace , and conteneues preaching war, i hope he will not get any things good from it,
then he shoud keep quite and go ahead with his ill. And in the end only those of us with good intention will priveil. Wether Garri, Gabra or Borana.
As Allah sw said in his noble qor,an.” what is with you will vernish, and what is with Allah will remain or triumph”
peace for All.
By gurbaa Garrii (garri boy)
hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha i would laugh at you, ignorant displays its ignorance like this!
Ok it is fine , if i am ignorant, then go a head and do what ever you wish.
I prey to Allah to guide Borana people to his right path. Amin, Amin,
Gurba garrii
I said ignorant to that one calling himself somali, not you! you are better than most of those commented above because you understand the bad consequences of war on both of us.
It is good to come to reconciliation sometimes. But say astagfirullahi for calling me “Kuffar” because i am your muslim neighbour.bye
To moyale borena
on this and other sites, u claim borena to be heroes. I give u one fact to vanish u being hero. Its known we drove borena from dadach waraab in somalia, in dire we hav taken from u all your Tula saglaan, gof, lahey and ararsam being latest. Öne simple question: any where u defeated garre or captured garre land? Who is hero, we or ajaae? Just answer me u crazy, only u know writing nonsense endless meaningless things. Am waiting…,
Please moyale somali city ,
don,t waste your time urging with some body, whose “quluub” was long locked by allah, ” afalaa yatadabaruunal qur,aana am calaa quluubin aqfaaluhaa” or”…………………. waloow calimallaahu fiihim qeyran la asamchum walaw asamcahum latawallaw wahum mucriduuna
Gurba garri
what is this again? why you start again?
That aaya was directed towards non-believers, not towards muslims. Do you think my “qulub” was locked by Allah(s.w)? can you remember a whole lots of things you’ve talked above? Do not judge another human being like you. Only Allah can judge!
Brother, when i comented sincerlly by the aaya from .allah why did you call me ignorant?
Gurba garri
Go up and read my comment again i think you haven’t seen it, i told you i didn’t say ignorant to you. i’ve said it to the guy who call himself somali city.bye
If so , i cant overlook saying “astaghfurullah, and if you are muslim you are my brother in slam , first of all it is our obligation to lift up islam; over garromit & borantiti,
Moyale borana,
ATe rai raya iti yam, Gandules ajaa. Mirgo arrera ufi katu, when did you ever beat Garre in anything? Udat when Adan Qalla taught Ajae a lesson that you will never forget, Iddi lola when Aligey taught you a lesson that your women are still singing about. ElGoofa, when Madnur slaughtered hundred and fifty borana ushaas. Tell me one battle that you have won. You miserable testicle harvester.
Yes, that’s true brother. Let’s pray for peace.Assalamu aleykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu!Ma’salam.
To moyale borena
asalam aleikum, although u are still insisting to insult me, the word Muslim is of high importance to me. Our conclusion is better than our inception. The true muslims are brothers regardless of race and tribe. Allah said “the most honourable of u with Allah is who has taqwa (true God fearing),”, so now we are brothers in Islam and I also advice u to attract, lead borena towards this light of Allah and get closer to us so that we can give u more insights about islam. Finally I pray the Almighty Allah to guide our neighbours towards his true light in huge numbers, Ameen. May Allah forgive us for the harsh words we have been exchanging. Peace, stability, unity and strength for all! Islam is our unity and guidance.
Thank goes to almighty,(sw)
secondly thank you both moyale who commented above for repenting to allah for all ill words that is tobe found through out their comments in this site, on my part i have also repented repented, and thus aske the almighty to forgive us for our sin,
and I prey to allah to bring peace to these brothers and sisters ,killing each other and guide them to his light.
O Allah there is no light except your light and non has power to solve problems except you, O allah endow them(GARRE, GABRA,,& BORANA) with your peace , ameen, ameen, ameen
Boran isan wa baradha garrin dhiirsa kesani kabaja baka jirtanit
Borana aka garrin ittin isan bulcha turte hin beektani garru ado beektani uubaan nyaacha jirtani gaafa borani sivilization hin dhaqabin garrin sivilization dhaqabde boran gaafasi gowa dhadha looni saliidiin jijiracha ture garri ira borani gaafa garritti dhufe hiyeesa woma hin qabnee kaan cile guba kaan qoraan cabsa kaan hatu borani gaala hate garri jala akasiin gaala horate loon garri jala hate akasiin horatee borana garrin yo isiin ka dhugumaan si haatu taate bakka borani jiru sa’ati diqo keesati waliin geetti garriin alshababa yo jette atin diqole hin yaadu garrin muqdisho demuu dhaan alshababa barbadeesite jagna gadi galu keesati ramadamtii borani ini mata isaatu shifta mangistiinu na isaan kasaare borana nami re’e baddi maan garte jedhe gaafatu hin jiru borani bara 2000 e.c shaambo dhugee hangamitti dhume loshin dhuge hagamiti dhume wuha gaar dhuge mardhumaan cicitani hagamitti due hin jirtani jira nyaatani isan.
Islam means peace, is this the sentiments of muslims in this holy month? why call others unbelievers or boranas are not muslims? hw are you potraying da image of islam? hakuna uislamu hapa kabisa, errand nosense.
Borana is not muslims he is none belevers borani islaama miti borani amanta hin qabu akuma horiti nuhin waaqefata jedhe akanumat uf ira deema borani islaamuma bara 2000 e.c tabliiqi garri lafa borana deemu dhaan borani haga nama 6 amanta muslimati gale borani hanga amaantana addaa bodati hafa rawacha jira addan suni kaafano jechuda yokaan jaala jaalto garayu jechuudhaan intalti durba tokko dhiirsa 5-6 qabdi nama akasi suniin muslima hin jenuun jechuunileef hin jiraanu Boranaaf garriin bara heddu wal hadha turte garu waan ajaiba borani lola guya tokko garri hinjifate hin beeku borani gaafa beelau hatuma rawata yero ini ori hatu abaan ori sun akuma nama ori isa waraabesi qabetti lakawate hatu sini xiyiti dhaan ajeesa yero san borani hatu ajeeftani hin jedhu nama kenyatti due jedhe faaruufi weedu dhawachuudhaan lafa garriti dhufa isaan karoora tokkole hin baafatin garrin umata mataan isii bana qabu waan taateef akka nama shibiro midhaan ira ariutti tokko tokkon isa firfirsite baleeftii gaafa ilmi garri ka saalfate kilaashi baate deemu ilmi borana ka saalfate xillo yokaan waraana qarata namu hiriya waan taef yero tikati wal dhaban gurbaan garri kilaashi buqe mataati qabe dhufe harka walti qaba guyaan lama hin qabu aban liban asuma lubu ufii dhaba
To: jagna garrii
please vacate this site as the discussion was stoped far long. Lets stop provocations, attract borena to islam and promote harmonious relation.
Please moyale somli is right , go up and see how we borana and Garri concluded the discusion with islamic prayer for peace,
so jagna Garre , we aske you to stop what you are preaching as amuslim we need to honour our words ,
peace for all
To, Moyale borana ,
how are you ?, how do you feel ?
How can you be accessed for further discusion?
am fine thanks ma man! how is Ramadan goin? have a blessed day!
SOWMUL MAQBUL!
I am a man who is living in somalia for along time-
still naw,deeply iknow the tribe of somali very well,therefore Garri is not somali by any sarcumistance,even if they are said we are somali
somali is not accepted,because Gari and Boran were brather both are an oromo, be wise you
Garri follow the truth history thanks a lot .
AdoTo gurbagarri you are wandarful istrayka saxiib shaqadaad kuadkaw cadowgayga iyo cadowkaaga nafaas /chansi hasii hastt.
To the one who call himself by the beautiful name of islam (mohamed) shame on you ! It is clear that you are ignorant of the reality with regards to garre , let a lone living in somalia, i am sure you had never steped on the soil of somalia, you fool which language do you think the Garre speak in somalia ? Again i can guarentee you that most of them even doent know the borana, that you are trying to associate to them.
A s c dhamaan asxabta warar fican baan idinsii neya mardhow isuga.